Showing posts with label Chuck Missler. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Chuck Missler. Show all posts

Monday, August 31, 2009

Proofs for the Pretribulation Rapture.

Proof #1: Revelation 19:11-21 doesn't mention a resurrection.
The rapture is a resurrection of those "in Christ" (1 Thess. 4:13-18). Isn't it a little bit odd that in Rev. 19:11-21, which is the clearest picture of the second coming of Christ, there is no mention of a resurrection? The rapture will be the biggest event since the resurrection of Jesus where hundreds of millions of Christians will be resurrected and translated, yet there isn't any mention here. Don't you think it deserves at least one verse? The rapture isn't mentioned because it doesn't happen at the second coming.

Proof #2: Zechariah 14:1-15 doesn't mention a resurrection.
This is an Old Testament picture of Jesus returning to earth at the second coming. Again, no mention of a resurrection.

Proof #3: Two different pictures are painted.
In the Old Testament, there were two different pictures painted of the Messiah—one suffering (Isa. 53:2-10, Ps. 22:6-8, 11-18) and one reigning as King (Ps. 2:6-12, Zech. 14:9,16). As we look back on these scriptures, we see they predicted two separate comings of the Messiah—the 1st coming as a suffering Messiah and the 2nd coming (still future) as a reigning King.

In the New Testament, we have another picture added. Again, we have two pictures painted which don’t look the same. These two different descriptions of Jesus’ coming point to two separate events we call "the rapture" and "the second coming."

Proof #4: The Known Day and the Unknown Day.
Concerning the return of Jesus, the Bible presents a day we can't know and a day we can know. Matthew 25:13 says Jesus will return at an unknown time, while Revelation 12:6 says the Jews will have to wait 1,260 days for the Lord to return. The 1,260 days begins when the Antichrist stands in the Temple and declares himself to be God (Matt. 24:15-21, 2 Thess. 2:4) This event will take place at the mid-point of the seven year Tribulation (Dan 9:27). The Antichrist has authority to rule for 42 months, which is 1,260 days (Rev. 13:4) and will be destroyed by Jesus at His second coming (Rev. 19:20, 2 Thess. 2:8). The known and unknown days must happen at different times, meaning they are two separate events.

Proof #5: A door open in heaven (Revelation 4:1).
The door in heaven is opened to let John into heaven. We believe John's call into heaven is prophetic of the Church being caught up at the rapture (see proof #6). In Revelation 19:11, heaven is opened again, this time to let the armies which are already in heaven out. This is the Church, which has been raptured at a previous time, following Jesus out of heaven at the second coming.

Proof #6: "Come up here." (Revelation 4:1).
A voice called for the apostle John to "Come up here," and immediately he was in heaven. This could be a prophetic reference to the rapture of the Church. The words "Come up here" are spoken to the two witnesses who are killed in the middle of the Tribulation, who are resurrected and ascend into heaven (Rev. 11:12). Therefore, the phrase "Come up here" could mean the Church is raptured in Rev. 4:1. The word "Church" is mentioned 22 times in Rev. 1-3, but is not mentioned again until Rev. 22:17.
Proof #7: The 24 elders have their crowns.
After John is called up into heaven, he sees the 24 elders with their crowns (Rev. 4:4-10). We know that Christians will receive their rewards (crowns) at the rapture (2 Tim. 4:8, 1 Pet. 5:4). We will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous (Luke 14:14). The elders couldn't receive their crowns unless the resurrection (rapture) has taken place.

Proof #8: Holy ones are already with Jesus in heaven (Zech. 14:5, Rev. 19:14).
The armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, follow Jesus out of heaven at His second coming (Rev. 19:14, Zech. 14:5, Col. 3:4). These are not angels because Rev. 19:8 tells us the fine linen is the righteousness of the saints. In order to come out of heaven we first have to go in, indicating a previous rapture.

Proof #9: Kept from the hour of testing (Rev. 3:10).
Revelation 3:10 says we will be kept out of the hour of testing which will come upon the whole earth (the Tribulation). Some have wrongly believed "keep" means to keep through, or protect through the Tribulation. Suppose you approach a high voltage area with a sign that says, "Keep Out." Does that mean you can enter and be protected? No, it means you are forbidden from entering the area. But this verse also says He will keep us from the hour of testing. It is not just the testing, but the time period. If a student is excused from a test, he still may have to sit in the class while others take the test. But if he is excused from the hour of testing, he can go home. The Church will be called home before the hour of testing.

Proof #10: Angels don't resurrect people when they gather them for judgment.
When the angels are sent forth to gather the elect at the second coming (Matt. 24:29-31), some have wrongly interpreted this as the rapture. There is one huge problem with this interpretation. If we are resurrected at this time, why would we need angels to gather us? In the resurrection, we will be like the angels (Matt. 22:30), able to travel in the air at will. Obviously, these people who are gathered are not resurrected, therefore it can't be the rapture. No one would claim the wicked are raptured at this time, yet Matthew 13:39-41, 49 says the angels will not only gather the elect, but also the wicked. This gathering is not a resurrection.

Proof #11: Both wicked and righteous both can't be taken first.
First Thessalonians 4:13-17 says the righteous are taken and the wicked are left behind. Matthew 13:30, 49 says the wicked are taken first and righteous are left behind. This points to two separate events, the rapture and the second coming.

Proof #12: Jesus returns from the wedding.
When Jesus returns to earth at the second coming, He will return from a wedding (Luke 12:36). At the rapture, Jesus is married to His bride, the Church. After the wedding, He will return to earth.

Proof #13: Jesus will receive us to Himself, not us to receive Him (John 14:2-3).
Jesus said He would prepare a place for the Church in heaven, then He would come again to receive us to Himself. Why would Jesus prepare a place for us in heaven and then not take us there? At the rapture, He will come to receive us to Himself, "that where I am (heaven), there you may be also." If the rapture occurred at the same time as the second coming, we would go up to the clouds and then immediately come back to earth. That would contradict John 14:2-3.

Proof #14: The one who restrains is taken out of the way.
In 2 Thess. 2:6-7, Paul says "the one who restrains will be taken out of the way" before the Antichrist can be revealed. We believe this refers to the rapture because the Church is clearly the biggest obstacle to the Antichrist becoming a world ruler.

Proof #15: The separation of the sheep and goats (Matt. 25:31-46).
If the rapture occurred at the second coming, why would the sheep and the goats need to be separated immediately after the second coming? A rapture at the second coming would have already separated the sheep and the goats. With a Pre-Tribulation rapture, the people saved after the rapture will need to be separated after the second coming.

Proof #16: Who will populate the Millennium?
If the rapture occurs at the second coming and the wicked are cast into hell at that time, who will be left to populate the millennium? Only people in their natural (non-resurrected) bodies will be able to have children (Matt. 22:30). With a Pre-Tribulation rapture, the people saved after the rapture who are alive at the second coming will populate the earth during the Millennium



Audio of the day: Dr. Chuck Missler and part Eight of Twenty-two in his study of the Book of John.

Study #8 - John Chapter Eight (19.38MB MP3)

This collection of audio is from the 1990's and is not the most recent series of studies in this book. You can find the most recent recordings for sale at Dr.Missler's website Khouse.org. The audio that I am offering can be found at Firefighters For Christ free of charge.


Wednesday, August 26, 2009

Technology Post - Geexbox

Do you have an old computer or a laptop/net book sitting around just gathering dust? If so then I have an entertaining suggestion for you: Geexbox.

Geexbox is a fully standalone media player that loads from system boot on a flash drive to play movies, music and pictures. Check out the site for all of the details.

I have an Acer Aspire One that I keep beside the bed to watch movies on and to listen to audio as I go to sleep. This past week I have gotten strung out on a show from *HULU called 'Daybreak' - it is a cross between '24' and 'Groundhog Day'. Daybreak aired for half of a season in 2006/2007. I Watched all thirteen episodes twice. I have Geexbox loaded on one of my 4GB flash drives and since the program itself only use 23MB, that leaves a lot of room for movies and music.

When I get ready for bed I fire up the net book and press F12 to to bring up the boot menu so I can select the drive and let Geexbox do the rest. The Geexbox menu system is very easy to use and navigate through.

I usually have bible teaching going as I sleep and this lets the Word of God slip into my unconscious mind. It does make for some interesting dreams.

Any questions that you might have about Geexbox can be sent via the blog comments section; I am happy to share this cool application with you.

The next thing that I want to do is build a small PC with good HD video out and plenty of RAM so I can hook it up to my HDTV in the living room for instant access to our video collection that I could rip and store to the Hard Drive and even stream content over the household wireless network.

4For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: 5So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. (Romans 12:4-5, King James Version)



Audio of the day: Dr. Chuck Missler and part Five of Twenty-two in his study of the Book of John.

Study #5 - John Chapter Five (15.80MB MP3)

This collection of audio is from the 1990's and is not the most recent series of studies in this book. You can find the most recent recordings for sale at Dr. Missler's website Khouse.org. The audio that I am offering can be found at Firefighters For Christ free of charge.

Saturday, August 22, 2009

I am VERY happy that Romans Eight is in the Bible

The title of today's post says it all. If you are not familiar with Romans chapter Eight then you are in for a blessing that will make your day and calm your mind; the enemy whispers all sorts of things in our ears to make us doubt our salvation and our ability to be or stay saved.

If you have never had these doubts, then I admire your faith, that it can not be shaken. I know that there were times in the past that I felt that I had blown my chance to be saved because I was such a sinner that God had never thought could exist. And that I played some part in the ongoing process.

When I came to the understanding that I am not the one responsible for keeping me saved and that it is God and God alone, I quit worrying. I still blow it so bad sometimes that doubt slips in and that gives the enemy an opportunity to whisper to me, "Are you sure that you are saved? No true born again person would ever do that, knowingly."

That is when I pray and ask for forgiveness for my sin. And then I look to John Ten and I know that the only way for me to loose my salvation is for me to fall out of the Father's hand. That is not possible:

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one. (John 10:27-30, King James Version)

When I give the enemy the opportunity to attack me - yes, I still sin - I remember that Romans Eight was penned over nineteen hundred years ago:

Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8:33-39, King James Version)


These verses seem to make the whispering stop. Thank you Jesus for your love.



I have a Pro MediaFire account that allows almost unlimited bandwidth for the uploading and downloading of files and I want to take full advantage of the service and use this blog to make the Word of God available to all who want it. So then faith (cometh) by hearing and hearing by the word of God - Romans 10:17.

Audio of the day: Dr. Chuck Missler and all Ten sessions of his study in the Book of Romans.

The Book of Romans (The Folder size is 187MB MP3)

This collection of audio is from the 1990's and is not the most recent series of studies in this book. You can find the most recent recordings for sale at Dr. Missler's website Khouse.org. The audio that I am offering can be found at Firefighters For Christ free of charge.

Friday, August 21, 2009

Today is a day of Great Expectation and Hope

Constant Reader and Sibling in the Lord, Spitfire, reminded me today of something that I have not considered for a while. When we see Jesus, we will be transformed into beings different than we are at this time and in this place. We will be just like He is now in His risen form; Sin will not be part of our DNA and we will not be constrained to only four dimensions of reality.

My proof texts for this is view is: (Luke 24:36-43), (John 20:26-29) and (1 John 3:2)
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Please forgive today's short post. My current body is tired and wants to go to bed and dream of (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18).

Maranatha!



Audio of the day: Dr. Chuck Missler and part Two of Twenty-two in his study of the Book of John.

Study #2 - John Chapter Two (17.62MB MP3)

This collection of audio is from the 1990's and is not the most recent series of studies in this book. You can find the most recent recordings for sale at Dr. Missler's website Khouse.org. The audio that I am offering can be found at Firefighters For Christ free of charge.

Saturday, August 15, 2009

Someday is NOW!

Greetings to all! It is Saturday, August 15th, 2009 and today is the day that that the Lord has made and I will rejoice and be glad in it. It is also the day that I set the format for my weekend posts at RomansThirteenTen.

Saturday will be the day of the week that I post links to media downloads. I will still include 'Audio of the Day' links throughout the week and use Saturdays to feature entire collections of audio files.

Sunday will be a day of rest and I will only post a scripture passage for the day. (This Sundays scripture post will be one of my favorite chapters from the book of Isaiah. Can you guess which one it might be?)

I have a Free MediaFire account that allows almost unlimited bandwidth for uploading and downloading of files and I want to take full advantage of the service and use this blog to make the Word of God available to all who want it. So then faith (cometh) by hearing and hearing by the word of God - Romans 10:17.

Audio of the day: Dr. Chuck Missler and all Twenty-one sessions of his study in the Gospel of John.

The Gospel of John (The Folder size is 345MB MP3)

This collection of audio is from the 1990's and is not the most recent series of studies in this book. You can find the most recent recordings for sale at Dr. Missler's website Khouse.org. The audio that I am offering can be found at Firefighters For Christ free of charge.